i wasn't surprised about that, but was surprised president obama didn't have the energy level to meet it. >> we had mentioned the surveys that have come out. and most people who watched it seemed to think that romney won. steve handelsman showed us that headline. when does that translate, or does it translate in the polling? >> that's the great question. we haven't seen ygreat surveys. some folks believe this electorate is locked in there. then again, this could end up having some type of change. i would just warn people a little bit, that sometimes you end up having this one debate, we saw george w. bush lose his first debate in 2004. we saw ronald reagan lose his debate against walter mondale in 1984, and those two were able to win the election. >> was this as chris christie said today, a wipeout or give the president a new opening? >> it gives him a potential new opening. the biggest thing we're going to see, and we won't be sure about the poll numbers to reflect this, this allows mitt romney to go on the offensive. over the last month mitt romney has been on the defensive, whether